trueguy
03-03 12:01 PM
I don't think EB3-I would be U for more than a month, as I keep saying this year EB3 would be getting some share of spill-over. So even if it becomes U for April that would be temporarily and it would return back in May.
Thank's
MDix
MDix,
What spillover for EB3 you are talking about? Based on how they interpreted the spillover law last year, EB3-I can't get any spillover until EB2-I and EB3-ROW is current and thats decade away.
I am just trying to get the facts. I am not against EB3-I as I myself is EB3-I and waiting for my turn since last 7 years.
Thanks.
Thank's
MDix
MDix,
What spillover for EB3 you are talking about? Based on how they interpreted the spillover law last year, EB3-I can't get any spillover until EB2-I and EB3-ROW is current and thats decade away.
I am just trying to get the facts. I am not against EB3-I as I myself is EB3-I and waiting for my turn since last 7 years.
Thanks.
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indio0617
03-09 11:02 AM
Still talking on asylum....
jonty_11
07-19 05:41 PM
Guys please enroll for recurring contributions. Its for our own good. Please dont sit under the misconception that since we applied for 485 and we get EAD we might be ok. you are not safe until you have the green card in your hand. durbin, grasley, ron hira are out there to get you, I wont be surprised if they come after EAD once they are done with H1. Please contribute to IV so that we can work on the next leg on the process, be it SKIL or visa number recapture or whatever comes but to do that IV needs money, please contribute so that we can build on the momentum. Junior members, news members you are the new blood please come forward and contribute. To existing members please think about increasing the recurring contribution amount.
correct GREEN CARD IN HAND is the key....lest people will take u for granted and abuse you....
correct GREEN CARD IN HAND is the key....lest people will take u for granted and abuse you....
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indyanguy
08-13 04:59 PM
But why should we lose the PD that we've been hanging on to for so long. For all we know, they might retrogress EB2 next - with USCIS, there's no room to take chances. I'm on my 10th yr here and don't want anything to go wrong at this point.
Have you given a thought or spoken to a lawyer about starting EB2 PERM when your EB3 140 is pending? After your EB2 PERM is approved, you have 6 months before interfiling your EB2 140 with your EB3 PD. I think that is long enough for your EB3 140 too be approved.
AFAIK, this can be done with little or no risk to your EB3.
Have you given a thought or spoken to a lawyer about starting EB2 PERM when your EB3 140 is pending? After your EB2 PERM is approved, you have 6 months before interfiling your EB2 140 with your EB3 PD. I think that is long enough for your EB3 140 too be approved.
AFAIK, this can be done with little or no risk to your EB3.
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SunnySurya
09-15 11:39 AM
I am with you and willing to share the cost.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
Milind123
09-12 05:29 PM
Hi IV members,
Thanks for all the work and effort put into making the life of many simple.
Just made a small contribution from my side
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Thanks
-Ska
Way to go first post and a contribution.
Thanks for all the work and effort put into making the life of many simple.
Just made a small contribution from my side
Details
$100 from paypal Receipt ID: 0140-0216-9540-2146
Thanks
-Ska
Way to go first post and a contribution.
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anju
07-19 05:23 PM
Guys,
Can I change my PD after filing 485? My RIR LC is waiting at BEC and I will apply for one more 140 which earlier PD.
Thanks,
Anju
Can I change my PD after filing 485? My RIR LC is waiting at BEC and I will apply for one more 140 which earlier PD.
Thanks,
Anju
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vban2007
07-15 10:24 AM
Done - Confirmation Number: 7YDRL-8BCFT
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spicy_guy
09-13 12:31 PM
Hi All,
My Eb2 Perm Labor Approved. It took 2 months to get approved. It was filed on 07/09/2010 and approved on (email received by HR dept) 09/10/2010. This is just to share with all of you.
Thank you.
Pardon my lack of knowledge. Is this from beginning to end?
I think advertising and stuff takes some time. Right? and thats not included in this 2 months. Right?
My Eb2 Perm Labor Approved. It took 2 months to get approved. It was filed on 07/09/2010 and approved on (email received by HR dept) 09/10/2010. This is just to share with all of you.
Thank you.
Pardon my lack of knowledge. Is this from beginning to end?
I think advertising and stuff takes some time. Right? and thats not included in this 2 months. Right?
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reddymjm
06-10 08:08 AM
I hope in the visa statistics for the year 2008 they don't come up with a report saying that 20,000 visas were lost as they were unused :D.
it will be NO wonder even if you see that..
it will be NO wonder even if you see that..
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amitjoey
07-18 02:30 PM
Hello
I have made my first contribution of $100
Google:867468246130567
Thanks
Greater Richmond
Thanks gcrich, we need more of the first timers, to contribute.
I am sure there are a lot many that have never ever contributed, and need everyone to come forward and do it. Sign up for the recurring contributions.
I have made my first contribution of $100
Google:867468246130567
Thanks
Greater Richmond
Thanks gcrich, we need more of the first timers, to contribute.
I am sure there are a lot many that have never ever contributed, and need everyone to come forward and do it. Sign up for the recurring contributions.
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NKR
06-26 08:18 AM
I'm sure you meant "Loss and loose have different meaning" ! .
Good catch :). I was losing patience waiting for the elusive green card and now I think I am losing my mind too.
Good catch :). I was losing patience waiting for the elusive green card and now I think I am losing my mind too.
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cirigadi
09-10 05:37 PM
I just contributed another $100 from Google checkout.
Best of luck..
Best of luck..
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hebron
10-29 08:56 AM
Hi Hebron,
I have filed EB2 & EB3 with the same company (As explained earlier). EB3 as Programmer Analyst and EB2 as Database Adminstrator ( MS + 2 yrs exp.). I think it is better to take some expert attorney advice on your case. It does not hurt if you consult ( or crosscheck ) with some other attorney about your case. Most of the legal experts charge around $250 to evaluate your case and suggest.
Best of Luck to you.
Thanks.
Hi 9Years,
Thanks for the information! I will consult a another attorney.
I was looking up the SOC job codes and I noticed is that in your case the SOC job codes are different. (Programmer Analyst 15-1021.00 and Database Administrator 15-1061.00.)
In my case both Software Engineer and Principal Software Engineer falls under the same SOC code.
This could be why my attorney thinks my case is not portable with the same employer.
I have filed EB2 & EB3 with the same company (As explained earlier). EB3 as Programmer Analyst and EB2 as Database Adminstrator ( MS + 2 yrs exp.). I think it is better to take some expert attorney advice on your case. It does not hurt if you consult ( or crosscheck ) with some other attorney about your case. Most of the legal experts charge around $250 to evaluate your case and suggest.
Best of Luck to you.
Thanks.
Hi 9Years,
Thanks for the information! I will consult a another attorney.
I was looking up the SOC job codes and I noticed is that in your case the SOC job codes are different. (Programmer Analyst 15-1021.00 and Database Administrator 15-1061.00.)
In my case both Software Engineer and Principal Software Engineer falls under the same SOC code.
This could be why my attorney thinks my case is not portable with the same employer.
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chanduv23
11-21 04:53 PM
But.. when AOS(485) is denied, won't the underlying 140 and for that matter labor is also denied?
Well once the h1b extension is granted - it is not retreated. It means that the person is in h1b status till the h1b expires (My understanding)
Now if 485 is denied when your h1b expiration's last day - then yes you are definitely out of all statuses
Such a thing is rare because person either files for h1b extension well before h1b expires or atleast decided he will use EAD
Issues will arise when h1b has to be extended and person is running out of time on existing h1b and the 140 revoke /485 denial happens (like say few weeks only because person was lazy to file h1b extension atleast 180 days before its expiry and decided to not use premium processing and h1b extension is pending)
Well once the h1b extension is granted - it is not retreated. It means that the person is in h1b status till the h1b expires (My understanding)
Now if 485 is denied when your h1b expiration's last day - then yes you are definitely out of all statuses
Such a thing is rare because person either files for h1b extension well before h1b expires or atleast decided he will use EAD
Issues will arise when h1b has to be extended and person is running out of time on existing h1b and the 140 revoke /485 denial happens (like say few weeks only because person was lazy to file h1b extension atleast 180 days before its expiry and decided to not use premium processing and h1b extension is pending)
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harsh
03-16 02:03 PM
Would it help to call senator Specter's office to find out what he feels about the chances of his bill? Will it get a chance to go through all the amendements by the committe or Senate Leader will table his own bill on 27th?
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Not2Happy
11-20 02:56 PM
Jimi,
I applaud your efforts to take the lead for the so cal chapter. I live in the San Fernando Valley in the Los Angeles county. I would be happy to assist you with any drive for our local chapter.
Unfortunately your first step did not muster enough support from our volunteers. I guess we just need another jump start and we will be rolling. Lets give it another shot.
I applaud your efforts to take the lead for the so cal chapter. I live in the San Fernando Valley in the Los Angeles county. I would be happy to assist you with any drive for our local chapter.
Unfortunately your first step did not muster enough support from our volunteers. I guess we just need another jump start and we will be rolling. Lets give it another shot.
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prem_goel
07-06 10:56 AM
I think the impetus required by IV will take time. Just 2 years ago, most of us got EADs/APs for themselves. It'll take time for the frustration to build up in those people who missed the boat. Their numbers are not many. It'll be a while before their numbers grow and they demand some kind of similar action from the US government.
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mjdup
01-02 11:51 AM
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billu
09-04 08:33 AM
I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
harivenkat
08-12 11:23 AM
this seems to me ... the master stroke in using documented as weapon towards undocumented ...eventually getting rid of both weapon and the target ....
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